Out Of Mana; This THING keeps getting in the way of CANON.
//….Well she is in a relationship in thor in the movies. And face it, Thor/Loki is never going to happen. Please don’t hate on a character (that is interesting) because they get in the way of a ship, that’s ridiculous.
Out Of Mana; I’m more concerned about Thor/Sif, the actual canon pair. Just…This look when Thor brings Jane home. I can’t.. It’s heartbreaking.
And I really don’t hate the character. I hate Natalie Portman’s portrail of the character. In Comic, Jane was a strong, interesting, three dimensional character. In film, she’s reduced to the lowest common denominator of being the “girlfriend” of the main. I thought we left this little cliche back in badly written fanfiction and anime. I think what pisses me off the most is that in the movie they made me hate one of my favorite characters. For that, I can’t forgive. I really can’t. If they had gotten a different actress, made her a nurse that met/helped a amnesia effected Thor and grew the relationship, I would be all over it. But this..They reduced her to a Mary Sue. That’s just insulting.
//I wish that is what they did. It would have been better. And I don’t like how they’re making a love triangle out of it. It seems ridiculous to pit one girl against the other. I always hated that. I loved them both in the comics.
I can honestly say: the movie isn’t as good as comics.
((Depends on which comics you’re talking about. Jane’s introduction in Thor comics WAS as the girlfriend. Stock and simple.
Jane the astrophysicist is far more interesting and allows for a stronger connection to world-hopping—a plot device, sure, but a useful one. A far more likely connection than that of her as nurse, particularly since MCU seems to be avoiding the identity confusion that arises with Don Blake as Thor’s mortal form (though the nod as an ex was a nice touch).
Jane in recent incarnations has gotten more backbone because 1. it’s not the 60’s anymore and 2. she’s had a long run of comics history behind her, including MOVING ON from Thor. It’s only because of the varied history she had as “the girlfriend” that she’s been able to become the interesting character she is in comics today.
Sif and Thor bother me personally because I think they are too similar and don’t develop when they are together. If we go by the films, Thor was arrogant despite Sif’s presence, but with the introduction of Midgard and Jane, he learnt some maturity. Thor’s arrogance went unchecked with Sif around [edit: unchecked on a general scale. She does correct him assuming responsibility for her becoming warrior]. Enter Jane, and the boy sits down and learns some things.
I agree the love-triangle is old news and ought not to be around in stuff like this. But to idolise the comics over the films when the comics do the EXACT SAME THING except WORSE (Sif and Jane actually become THE SAME PERSON which just shows the absolute irrelevance of any of their individuality in the comics) is just silly.
I wish the Thor film had gone more into how Jane helped Thor learn not to be so arrogant, but we can’t do much about that.
The original post of this, however, offends me greatly. Jane is not a thing—she is a character. Hating on female characters to support your male/male ship is hurtful to many, not in the least of which is one of your ship’s characters, who is canonically extremely emotionally invested in the presence of this character. To misunderstand that is to misunderstand the character of both Jane and Thor. Ship what you want, but don’t disregard or belittle characters to do it.
And while you may not enjoy Portman’s portrayal of her in the film, she is actually much better off than her original incarnation in the comics. Research-driven PhD in astrophysics trumps pining eye-candy nurse/secretary to Don Blake any day.
The only other incarnation where I think she shows as much gumption from the start as she has in the films, to be honest, has been in EMH where she is a paramedic who doesn’t back down from helping people in situations that could threaten her own welfare. I thought they did a nice compromise on that while still being close to her original appearance in comics.))
No matter your feelings on the character herself, the portrayal of the character, or the ships—
If you feel as the OP apparently does, I would respectfully (but with clenched teeth and considerable force) request that you get the hell off my blog and unfollow me for the rest of eternity.
Dehumanising ANY character (‘THING’? REALLY?!) for the sake of some precious SHIP is sickening. I am incoherent with rage over this, and a look at the OP’s blog frankly does nothing but confirm my impression of Thorki shippers as basically terrible people (and I will probably offend some of you with that, but that is the impression my experience with fans of that ship has left me with. Sorry, but that’s how it’s been for me. If you are a decent person and a Thorki shipper, you have my apologies).
IF YOUR SHIP (whether slash or straight, though I’M LOOKING AT YOU MOSTLY, SLASH) CAUSES YOU TO HATE AND DEHUMANISE ANOTHER CHARACTER, ESPECIALLY A FEMALE CHARACTER, YOU NEED TO TAKE A LONG, HARD LOOK AT YOURSELF, BECAUSE THAT IS NOT GOOD.
I have so much more to say, but today is basically a really terrible day and my hands are shaking and I can’t think clearly, so this mish-mash of raging feels will have to do. *sigh*